Let's be very clear on this... There is a difference between a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth.
I know people who work at the DMV, and even there, a certificate of live birth is not a valid document.
This legislation is being put forth on the state level, Obama can not veto it.|||Ignore the Law like he ignores so many other Laws
17 year old kids have better " proof of age " than Obama offered
Even his Certification of Live Birth was altered
Obama's 1961 Certification listed his father's race as " AFRICAN " in 1961
NO Official Documents listed " race " as " AFRICAN "
In 1961 even blacks referred to themselves as " N-E-G-R-O "
Obama's mother's " race " was listed as " CAUCASIAN "
If Obama's father's race was listed as " AFRICAN " ( which is a nationality NOT a race ) his mother's " race " would have been listed as " EUROPEAN "|||Lets BE clear.
Your information is false. I have a certificate of live birth from California, which includes all the gory details, is signed by the doctor and which is completely legal. Hawaii's short form is absolutely legal, and valid in any court of law.
Obama does not veto anything at the state level. The law in Arizona is subject to legal analysis, and is laughable. You have heard of the Constitution? The definition of citizenship is a federal issue. And one state does not get to tell another state that their legal records are invalid.|||A birth certificate is whatever a state says is a birth certificate. All birth certificates in the US are based on the US Standard Certificate of Live Birth from the CDC. Even BCs in 1961 said they were Certificates of Live Birth. See this one: http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcer鈥?/a> Notice what it says at the top.
Hawaii says that this is their birth certificate: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd113鈥?/a> Anyone born after 2001, and anyone who requests a certified birth certificate gets this and no other. It matches the State Department guidelines for a passport, the I9 requirements for proof of citizenship, the Little League requirements, and the DMV requirements in every state. It is a valid and legal certified birth certificate.
If the AZ bill passes, the AZ Sec of State says he will accept Obama's COLB. But the bill is unconstitutional and would be thrown out as soon as it hit a judge's desk. States can't put additional restrictions on Constitutional offices than appear in the Constitution, and states must accept the official documents of other states. So if Hawaii says the COLB is a legal birth certificate, and certifies that Obama was born in the state of Hawaii, AZ and every other state must honor that certification.
BTW -- Arizona hasn't collected doctor's and witnesses' signatures on their birth certificates since 1989. In 14 years, no one born in AZ after 1989 will be eligible for the AZ ballot.|||He'll probably try to win without the support from Arizona. Truthfully, I'm not an Obama fan and am not just doubting his eligibility because he's black or democratic...but I do have some legitimate doubt and would like him to step up and show his real birth certificate. To be honest, I think he himself was born in the states, but think that because his father wasn't and due to the strict interpretation of this law, that it may cause dismissal.|||I guess he will have to show it. Didn't he ever have a passport? I took my certificate of live birth when I applied for my 1st passport thinking it was the same as a birth certificate, but was told it was not the same thing and I needed to get a certified copy of my birth certificate and come back when I had it. No birth certificate, no passport.|||The Certificate of Live Birth is the normal form issued by the State of Hawaii to prove birth. and Arizona is Constitutionally bound to recognize the evidence presented to them by the state of Hawaii (see Article 4, Section 1 of the Constitution.) The fact that the piece of paper isn't labeled 'Birth Certificate' won't make any difference in the end.|||once again please please please answer this Ok Please explain how the 1st black president in the history of the US. How he could slip past something as basic as: Are you a US citizen Yes No? You would find this on any job application. Does YOUR job hire illegal immigrants?(your job is not the presidency of the USA) Do you think the highest office in the country,the most scrutinized position in the world even if you aren't black,do you think the govt would let something so basic slip past? Something a journalist of a high school newspaper would look into if they were investigating. Do you think 'whoever would have made this happen' wouldn't realize this most obvious flaw?
EDIT: and yet no clear answer to this simple question just more denial from moron birthers|||He already showed his birth certificate. Since you seem uneducated on the subject, watch this video.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politic鈥?/a>
The DMV and the State Department (Passport Office) were quite happy with my certified copy of a record of live birth. It seems only you have trouble.|||Who cares..if you haven't noticed the Republicans are screwing their new voters already in Ohio and Michigan. When will idiots realize that this is not a Democrat / Republican thing any more. They are both screwing us and refuse to let any one else debate on the national stage. Everyone running should be allowed to debate. Even if it takes days.|||There is no difference according to the Supreme Court. You've already lost buddy.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/201鈥?/a>|||i dont believe were some one is born or there religious belief is importing
for them to be President
i believe whats importing is there intelligence and actions and what there going to do for america|||Federal Courts interpret the US Constitution, not states run by teabaggers. Even so, I'm sure Obama could give a **** about Arizona. It's not like he's going to win it either way.|||He'll show the same BC we've all been looking at for 2 years.
The legislation is about 230 years overdue, but it will have zero impact on Obama.|||Each state has its own laws concerning birth records.I don't like the man anymore than the next guy. But can't you find something else to complain about.|||You should check with your friend in th DMV again, That is what my children used to get their drivers license, It also got them a passport.|||I am good at making birth certificates all he has to do is call me and for a low fee of $50 i will make him a U.S born Citizen|||Obama has his best Chicago underground document makers working on that as we speak.|||You should try debating the policies of the administration because the birther issue is going nowhere.|||I've had enough of this. Take a knife and slit your throat please.
BETTER DEAD THAN RED. VOTE BLUE, OBAMA 2012!|||He'll produce it
Maybe he doesn't have a long form
I don't thing we know for sure
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